Suffering: Part 1 1/2

 
Lisa posted the following on her blog and it relates to the theme of suffering which I have been pondering lately:
 

I ran across a quote this afternoon in the devotional booklet "Our Daily Bread". The quote reads as follows: "Can God trust you with sorrow, With anguish, and with pain, Or would your faith soon falter And faint beneath the strain." – Nicholson

I re-read it and became stuck on that first line…can God trust you with sorrow. I’ve never heard of this before…and it strikes me as interesting, thought-provoking, and even a little revolutionary! Does the trust God has in us result in more or less sorrow and pain in ourselves? Is that even the point? And as I’m sitting here reflecting on this, trying to make sense of it, a phrase enters my mind "God doesn’t give us more than we can bare", and another quickly follows – "I can do all things through Him who gives me strength"…interesting. But how does this enter into whether or not we have sorrow or pain in our lives? or does it even at all? How would God trust us with sorrow or pain? Would it simply be God trusting us to trust in Him throughout the sorrow and pain? Is that what the author is getting at? Or am I totally off the mark?And from our point of view, we usually end the sentence differently…"can God trust us with the gifts He’s given us…the talents He’s bestowed on us…with spreading the good news…" however, who ever thought to ask, can God trust us with pain?? who would WANT to be trusted with sorrow and pain??! And why is there trust involved with the entrance of pain into a person’s life? Perhaps it has to do with the second phrase of the quote…"or would your faith soon falter and faint beneath the strain"…God does not want to see His children lose faith, lose their way, or become lost in the tragedy and dramas of life.  So is it that He trusts us with just the right amount of sorrow and pain to keep us growing in Him, rather than giving us more than we could bare, and therefore resulting in a loss of faith and belief in Him?? I’m not sure…I don’t know how to take this quote. It intrigues me and confounds me at the same time.  It keeps me going back to it and looking at it again, trying to find some deep meaning to it that i’m sure exists to the author, however, continues to elude me.  If anyone has any thoughts on the quote, feel free to share!! I’d love to hear another opinion on this!

In response consider the following:

This is a good quote and definitly one to ponder. Keep in mind that 1 Cor. 13 (my favourite verse) which speaks of not allowing us to go through more than we can handle is speaking very specifically of temptation – not pain or burden in general.

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember what I told you: ‘Servants are not greater than their master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also." John 15:18-20

Christ warns us of the trials to come as a follower of Him. I don’t think it is God who makes us sorrowful but rather allows us to go through it. We will either go through it or "grow" through it (which is God’s intent). Consider James 1:2-4 which says:

"Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything."

The joy is not to be sadistic joy at being hurt but rather joy that God trusts us enough to continue our growth and maturity.

So than the question is asked again – can God trust you with sorrow?

One Might Suffer…

 
Did I tell you how much I like Doctor Who? The writing of this show is just superb. It has a very kitschy veneer but this seems designed to drive away the pretenders. If you hang around you get a show that explores the depth of human emotion quite well.
 
Anyhow I was watching the show last night and they were visiting 18th century France (1729). The Doctor develops a quick but profound connection with Madame de Pompadour who at one point reflects on her willingness to confront (or at least deal with evil); she says:
 
"One might endure a world full of demons for the sake of an angel"
 
These are the kind of sacharine statements that actually work well on me. I love that comment. It has reminded me of a few passages from the Bible. First I think St. Paul was aware of this aspect of human nature when he warned against leaning on evil for the sake of receiving God’s grace when he asks:
 
"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid."
 
In the Old Testament God is willing to endure cities filled with evil for the sake of 10 righteous people (Sodom & Gomorrah).
 
The whole thing has me wondering at what we (humanity) are willing to endure for the sake of one angel in our lives. What are we willing to endure for the sake of God?

Remembrance & Sacrifice

 
I am preaching this Sunday in our Remembrance Day service (which is an honor) and have been thinking about things such as pacifism and just war theory.
 
A quote from Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s unfinished book Ethics discusses the agony of willfully acting against the known will of God (which could apply to either side of the argument depending upon where you stand):
 
When a man takes guilt upon himself in responsibility, he imputes his guilt to himself and no one else. He answers for it… Before other men he is justified by dire necessity; before himself he is acquitted by his conscience, but before God he hopes only for grace”
 
How much of our lives are made up of decisions and actions that ultimately require the grace of God to survive? How much of our lives can be characterized not as an act of faith but as a lack of faith? The whole of our lives I believe. What would happen if we truly and fully trusted God and had faith in His Word? Transformation. Earth changing transformation. But that’s a lot of faith…